[quote]Tremors is one of the ten best movies ever made.

"Stampede Earl!"[/quote]

Hell yeah!

Hate the Matrix.
Watch the entire trilogy.
For Five weeks in a row.
A little each night.
Then you'll learn to love it.
Like Big Brother.

Duracell analogies are not bad sci-fi. In fact, I feel lavish attention to scientific minutiae to make worse sci-fi. "Primer" was an exercise in elegant gibberish, to my ears at least. The fucking 60's "Time Machine" had me more involved. Involvement is important. The characters and plot are important. Accuracy, on the other penis, is a last-minute touch you add if you have time.

But, yes, the second two Matrix movies have issues, but it isn't the science; it's the pacing and point of view issues. We follow Neo all through the first installment only to be shuttled back and forth between supporting characters in 2 & 3 like children in some nasty custody battle. When we do get back to Neo, he's treading water, having already made up his mind on what to do somewhere halfway through 2. So we're left with our main character in a holding pattern, so they made the crummy choice of showing us the exploits of Zion and all. Super-fuckin' yawn. Back to Neo for his story's excellent climax.

Unfortunately this takes 7 hours to get to. So the filmakers fail here, losing the audience's involvement by literally losing the plot. As a pastiche of pop culture, it works to amuse. But, for a movie, that just isn't enough.

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Ham-fisted ham fisting.

[quote]Tremors is one of the ten best movies ever made.

"Stampede Earl!"[/quote]

I love Reba.

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This is not my empire.

[quote]
Duracell analogies are not bad sci-fi.[/quote]

Using humans as batteries is bad sci-fi. Really bad. I could come up with a better idea while falling off the toilet drunk.

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i think the exact battery quote was "The human generates more bio-electricity than 120-volt battery and over 25,000 BTVs of body heat. Combined with a form of fusion, the machines have found all the energy
they would ever need." that's not anymore outlandish than many many scifi concepts. here's one example -- warp speed. a vehicle travelling at hundreds of times the speed of light, which physics has told us is the speed limit of the universe. the assumption is that there are scientific methods we haven't acquired yet that would allow what now seems impossible. in the case of warp speed it is probably wormholes and the bending of spacetime. in the case of humans as batteries it is the "form of fusion" they mentioned. if they'd have said, we hooked one end of a jumper cable up to his nose and the other end to his balls and siphoned off energy, then i think you'd have a case. but introducing the intentionally-general "form of fusion" makes it directly analogous to the the warp speed example

for the record, i loved the first Matrix and hated the sequels. i think the reason i liked the original so much was because it was a "birth of a god" story. that's a rare movie concept. some were saying the Matrix stole from other genres, but i haven't seen many or any birth-of-a-god movies. and not only a birth of a god, but a character we are identifying with throughout. so it's kind of like we vicariously experience his ascension to a deity

that's why the sequels sucked so much. you have a god fighting people. why? it's never in question who's going to win. and where did his godly powers go? the end of the first Matrix wasn't "oh, i can stop bullets, scroe!" it was i am the one, i can see the code, i can stop time, i am a god. that all went away in the sequels. he's fighting people on diesels and werewolves and ghosts, when as a god, he should have been working to free the trapped lives still in the dreamworld. i mean, shit, isn't the ending basically that all the trapped lives stay trapped, the matrix stays intact, but whoopty freakin do, Zion's allowed to survive so they can keep throwing rave parties.

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[quote]i think the exact battery quote was "The human generates more bio-electricity than 120-volt battery and over 25,000 BTVs of body heat. Combined with a form of fusion, the machines have found all the energy
they would ever need." that's not anymore outlandish than many many scifi concepts.[/quote]

Then many many sci-fi concepts suck. One asks oneself how a human body generates all these volts and BTUs. The answer is food. And feeding a human body takes energy. You put energy in, and energy comes out. So, yeah, in a limited sense, a human body is like a battery. Is it a good battery? No. It's grossly inefficient. Is it an energy source? Oh hell no, not when you count what it takes to fuel it. So if the machines hook a bunch of human bodies up to wires, have they found "all the energy they would ever need?" No. Quite the opposite. They've found an energy cost center, an energy sinkhole. So Morpheus is wrong. The opposite of right. Took me about .2 seconds to realize this while watching the movie.

[quote]here's one example -- warp speed. a vehicle travelling at hundreds of times the speed of light, which physics has told us is the speed limit of the universe. the assumption is that there are scientific methods we haven't acquired yet that would allow what now seems impossible. in the case of warp speed it is probably wormholes and the bending of spacetime. in the case of humans as batteries it is the "form of fusion" they mentioned. if they'd have said, we hooked one end of a jumper cable up to his nose and the other end to his balls and siphoned off energy, then i think you'd have a case. but introducing the intentionally-general "form of fusion" makes it directly analogous to the the warp speed example
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What is this about fusion that makes using humans as an energy source plausible? I missed it.

Which I found cool.

lewl

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